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Isaac Middle's avatar

The Germ Conspiracy goes deeper than any of us can imagine.

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Kristen Welch's avatar

Agreed. It is at the epicenter of it all. The entire house of cards falls down once this spell is lifted

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Bill Huston's avatar

I finally got around to reading this. I've been dealing with the fallout from the whole Poornima Wagh affair all day.

This is great work, Kristen. AMAZING to me to learn that even the Internet Archive is not immune from censorship. Here's the link that was scrubbed:

404: Nothing here: https://www.finanzwende.de/ueber-uns/verein/gruendungsmitglieder/

Whoops, nothing here either: https://web.archive.org/web/20190524092953/https://www.finanzwende.de/ueber-uns/verein/gruendungsmitglieder/

But you can find it here: https://archive.ph/4PA6I

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Mike Penrose's avatar

Kristen. You have just gone to the top of my reading list. Fantastic article. I think you have hit the nail squarely on the head. Before this, I believed Poornima Wagh and Reiner Fuellmich were good people. You have opened my eyes to what is really going on. That interactive PDF is a real eye opener. Keep up the excellent work.

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Kristen Welch's avatar

Thanks very much! I appreciate that. However, I cannot take credit for the PDF alone, as I am merely presenting it along with some other evidence. Thanks for reading!

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Pseudonym's avatar

Mike, try to wake up your brain: So, good to look into Fuellmich, but you've jumped on the bandwagon against Wagh without reviewing her results and you are working with discredited government lackey Eric Coppolino. I don't listen to people who want to immediately repress information. Maybe Fuellmich talked to her because she is a VIROLOGIST and the others are not.

See my writings people. This woman is unfortunately a hack, who is just speculating here.

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/independent-researchers-find-no-mrna

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/only-frauds-attack

I am covering more because there is far more evidence of graphene in the jabs. This is what Kristen and the other speculators dismiss. More than I even knew.

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Mike Penrose's avatar

I haven't jumped on any bandwagon. Poornima has jumped on a bandwagon. Stefan Lanka (a PhD virologist) has been saying what Poornima has been saying about viruses not existing for at least TWENTY YEARS. And, long before Poornma's Powerpoint presentations, several other people had been analyzing the covid injections and finding reduced graphene oxide and all kinds of other crap in them. Poornina has jumped on THEIR bandwagon. What Poornina has done by refusing to verify her qualifications (and also refusing to display her alleged research for everyone to see on the internet) is allow the medical/industrial complex lackeys to smear the whole of the no-virus team. They will say things like 'Poornima Wagh said viruses don't exist and she was proven to be a liar' etc. They will use guilt by assumed association. The fact that virtually ALL of the no-virus team are decent, honest people will mean nothing to them. All they want is to further their own narrative. And, by Poornima refusing to verify her qualifications, and also refusing to display her alleged research for everyone to see on the internet, she has given them this opportunity. If she did this research, and it was what she said it was, she could potentially save millions of lives by revealing it. But she was more concerned about defending herself by smearing other people and making sure she didn't delay the people who were coming to clean her condo. She wouldn't even let her friend, Regis Tremblay, contact the LSHTM and verify her qualifications. Even after he publically promised not to reveal what he found to anybody. Poornima, if you ever read this, put your research on the internet and tell everybody in the no-virus team where it is. And, if you can, let Regis verify your qualifications. If you can't do any of this, please go away. You are doing more harm than good. (And that's giving her the benefit of the doubt and assuming that she's not controlled opposition, like her buddy Reiner Fuellmich obviously is.)

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Mike Penrose's avatar

What's going to happen next? Here's my prediction. I reckon Reiner Fuellmich will pretend that he didn't know Poornima Wagh was a fraud before he interviewed her. And soon, he will announce that he and his panel were 'fooled' by her. Then they will then use this 'discovery' to attempt to discredit the whole no-virus movement. Guilt by presumed association. One of the oldest tricks in the book. Just my two cents worth.

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Barbara Kiley's avatar

lol. Fuellmich DID NOT INTERVIEW Wagh. He merely appeared in the same show with an interviewer who INTRODUCED Wagh to Fuellmich for the first TIME...DURING the SHOW.

Geez. Watch the interview. This whole thing is being used to discredit Fuellmich, when THE CORRECT TARGET is Wagh, the LIAR.

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Rob Verkerk PhD's avatar

Good analysis, Kristen. A marker that the globalists want this issue to fracture our counter movement is they're not censoring like they did early treatments, vax injuries, etc. The no-virus camp has some vocal and hostile voices, but there will be a much bigger system behind the scenes fanning the flames. Check out the comments to my article on it: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/anh-feature-does-the-virus-exist-a-critical-need-for-resolution/

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nonombre's avatar

Nice work Ms. Welch, I'm new here but I like what I see and read. I like how you make the connections sort of like Amazing Polly. Keep up the good work! I was rooting for Dr. Wagh hoping she could support herself but she acted like a hurt school girl. Mr Sagan once said Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence" and I believe she fell short.

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Kristen Welch's avatar

Thank you 😊

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Pseudonym's avatar

So, good to look into Fuellmich, but you've jumped on the bandwagon against Wagh without reviewing her results and you are working with discredited government lackey Eric Coppolino. I don't listen to people who want to immediately repress information. Maybe Fuellmich talked to her because she is a VIROLOGIST and the others are not.

See my writings people. This woman is unfortunately a hack, who is just speculating here.

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/independent-researchers-find-no-mrna

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/only-frauds-attack

I am covering more because there is far more evidence of graphene in the jabs. This is what Kristen and the other speculators dismiss. More than I even knew.

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Stateless3's avatar

An excellent post. The Germ theory is their Achilles heel. As soon as people realise the theory was disproven a long time ago and the truth has been hidden from them, then the game is up. More and more are coming to understand just how deep this deception goes.

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

I think you asked me for a link to Dr Merritt's Telegram channel, but i can't find your comment in that regard. I got her comment via a friend, i'm not even on Telegram. Sorry.

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Ken Bear's avatar

Thanks Kristen!

http://sealevel.ca/ocean/open.htm

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

Thanks for this article!!

Regis Tremblay is hanging tough, he had her on today, she openly lied, he treated her with kid gloves.

https://rumble.com/v1i9g2j-poornima-wagh-takes-the-stand-to-defend-herself.html

Also on Bitchute.

And Dr Lee Merritt likewise. From her Telegram channel,

""Let me start by saying I believe in an open forum of ideas. Science is about disagreement and sharing different ideas. It is not about consensus. I cite Dr. Michael Crichton speech at Cal Tech, “Aliens Cause Global Warming”. Many moons ago, I thought credentials mattered. And they do matter when you are treating people who at least need to know you arent the hospital janitor, that you passed a basic course in medicine etc. But as we have learned in the age of COVID ( and we should have remembered from WWII) an MD does not prevent you from committing murder. Licensing boards have become the gestapo. Credentialling has inly been referenced to keep people silent through coercion. “She doesnt know anything about viruses. Shes just an Orthopaedic Surgeon.” So now to the present case. I brought her on my podcast AFTER I had a two hour phone call and was impressed. The counterintel folk can give great speeches but collapse under questioning because they’ve been taught a script. Ive been warning colleagues about certain “silicon” people who dont seem legit or are known to have been paid ( or are being paid) by DARPA/BARDA etc for decades. There really are Counterintel people among us. If Poornima Wagh is one of them Ill eat my old Harrison’s textbook of Internal Medicine— turns out to be pretty useless anyway. She told me, when I asked about her degree, that she was trained at the London School of Tropical Medicine— a place i once considered attending. She told me ablut her malaria research and thatbher conclusions were not well received by the examiners at her “Defense”. According to her, she left not really caring about the outcome of the committee hearing. She told me that BEFORE all this BrouHaha. As to her points: im not a lab person,but from what I do know she has a level of knowledge beyond college. And if you dont find rna or dna on Raman Spectroscopy and Gel electrophoresis it ain’t there. So possibilities are: 1) she made the whole thing up. 2) She and the Getmans and the others we believe have same findings were given specimens that were out of cryo too long. (Isnt it interesting that the drug Companies claim if its over 10 weeks out of cryo the genetic material poof! disappears! If that is the case please tell me how we do forensic dna in dead people long after. How did the determine Jack the Rippers identity from hairbrush from the 1800s? As to the E-mail purportedly from the London School: I used to do credentialling review for a 220 med staff regional trauma center. I also have chased my own credentials to get multiple state licenses. You dont get results given by a “public Affairs, or media interface of any University. You get it from the Registrars office. There is something wrong with that e- mail response. It should also be noted that the London school took 180,000,000 pounds from the UK government/wellcome trust/Gates foundation. And thry probably don’t want to help Waghs credibility too much. They never say she didn’t do graduate work there. They say she didn’t have a degree. On the other hand, if she wants to stay in the fight— and I encouraged her to not back down because it only encourages them to beat down others— she should publish her paper now even on a website. I offered to help her get it published at AAPS journal or Id put it on my website. I have no doubt about not being able to publish it. I would have been the first paper on bleeding problems related to the shots, after I submitted a paper to AJM in March 2021. Not even a consideration given. I did publish in JAAPS. But by then too late to make a big effect. I Didnt make a big deal of researching Wagh because I just wanted to give her a chance to elaborate on that very short blurby video she was in. And at the end of the day, shes been subjected to much more than David Martin ( try to even find what his purported phD is in!) Or the Fraudchi—I could not Find Anthony Fauci’s medical license in NYS where he CLAIMS to have done post graduate medical training.

I trained there shortly after him and they always keep your license. I get people looking into her, but she is very personally convincing. There seems to be a disproportionate angst over her and not over others. Which is a check box in her favor. Finally, Now that Im a haphazard member of the “alternative media”, I would quote my friend Courtenay Turner: Its not our job to tell people what to think, but rather to provide information and questions in the hopes that they do think."

Being exposed no longer means anything if some people are invested in perpetuating the lie.

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Kristen Welch's avatar

It is the job of an actor or fall person to try and be convincing. Many people felt she was, others have been wary.

This is not about a persons credentials, or lack of… this is about asking WHY she felt the needs to lie about them? Entering the arena with that sort of deception as your foundation is a terrible idea. Also, entering into this arena, it should be expected that you are going to get scrutinized and that others will want to check out your listed credentials.

In her defense video back on with Tremblay, she scoffs at many people like Christine Massey and she seems very antagonistic to the doctors and researchers in this movement. You would think someone would be a bit more honored or happy to work with those on the forefront of research she claims to have been privy to for 12/13 years.

Finally, it takes one inter-office email or phone call to look up student records. Most- if not all- school administrators have access to this information. Also, and someone can correct me if I am wrong, the request made was in the domain of public record. The school is not allowed to release demographics or transcripts to private parties. With permission, those can also be released. Asking for proof of degree is not illegal. I do agree that the verbiage “attended” vs “graduated” would have bolstered Coppolinos evidence but at this point she is already caught.

Thanks for reading!

PS Courtenay is awesome! I have had a couple of discussions on this topic with her :)

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nonombre's avatar

I was also wondering, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, she started virology since 2006, so she knows about HIV and AIDS and all that nonsense as she would put it, but yet she continued to work in a lab practicing virology? She also say that her boss, which conveniently died (that's also questionable like her ex David), wanted the covid samples tested 3x and Dr. Wagh couldn't find or isolate it. My question is, why did it take the plandemic for her to realize that virology is fake science? She claim her mom lost her eye due to the jab, eye ;) would like to see a picture of her mom to see if that's also fiction.

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Kristen Welch's avatar

You bring about some excellent points there

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nonombre's avatar

Thanks, I only wish Eric had asked her. She always seems to be real busy but always manages to squeeze Regis in. My thoughts is Regis is going to distance himself from her so as not to sully his reputation. That'll be the logical thing to do. Keep up the great work.

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Question Everything's avatar

Regis has apparently had her one AGAIN - even AFTER her "defense video" 😂 for fucks sake! I didn't watch it. Its difficult to listen to her (even before the truth came out, she was difficult to listen to since she came on the scene - something about her... she rambles on like a child, and makes negative comments in her presentations & slides that lack professionalism....)

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

You are absolutely right, a transcript would require permission for release, but not whether or not a degree was granted. She claimed a degree, in fact claimed two of them. And she used these claimed degrees as her meal ticket.

She made basic errors on the science as well, not knowing there was more than one in silico versions of the alleged virus, when in fact there are now 12 million of them, and asserting the use of "Patient Zero" as the base, when that was an alleged AIDS patient in 1984. And others.

Thanks for the Courtenay rec.

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Pseudonym's avatar

You are really jumping on the bandwagon of STUPID.

Coppolino said he used a computer program to get the data. What the hell are you on? You are reporting nothing that is true. I suspect you're working with Coppolino.

So, good to look into Fuellmich, but you've jumped on the bandwagon against Wagh without reviewing her results and you are working with discredited government lackey Eric Coppolino. I don't listen to people who want to immediately repress information. Maybe Fuellmich talked to her because she is a VIROLOGIST and the others are not.

See my writings people. This woman is unfortunately a hack, who is just speculating here.

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/independent-researchers-find-no-mrna

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/only-frauds-attack

I am covering more because there is far more evidence of graphene in the jabs. This is what Kristen and the other speculators dismiss. More than I even knew.

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Kristen Welch's avatar

You are extremely presumptive and you have no idea who or what I have been working with to get to the bottom of this Wagh charade.

I have never denied graphene is present in the shots, among other things used to poison us.

You sound like an uneducated troll with nothing better to do.

PS the lines you complain about are a part of an interactive map that you can easily navigate, and you are the only person complaining about how to use it.

Find someone else to banter or fight with. If you have any real, pertinent information that you can verify or validate, feel free to email me.

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

"Coppolino said he used a computer program to get the data." What "DATA"?

You have proof that she is a virologist? Any proof that she has the PhDs she claims to have from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine? SHOW US! Show us she has a virology degree from ANY place, indeed. And show us proof that Coppolino dismisses graphene oxide.

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nonombre's avatar

I can see why you'd say that he treated her with kid gloves but I think it was his way of playing "good cop", in order for her to either further incriminate herself or salvage her already sullied reputation. Btw, paragraphs can be easier on the eyes especially if there are a lot of words...just sayin..

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

I think you mean if there aren't a lot of words? I was told that by a mutual friend of ours yesterday. :-) Sorry, i posted it just as Dr Lee Merritt had it. I agree, i probably should have re-formatted what she did.

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Pseudonym's avatar

You don't know she lied. And you certainly have no idea who intel is.

So, good to look into Fuellmich, but you've jumped on the bandwagon against Wagh without reviewing her results and you are working with discredited government lackey Eric Coppolino. I don't listen to people who want to immediately repress information. Maybe Fuellmich talked to her because she is a VIROLOGIST and the others are not.

See my writings people. This woman is unfortunately a hack, who is just speculating here.

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/independent-researchers-find-no-mrna

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/only-frauds-attack

I am covering more because there is far more evidence of graphene in the jabs. This is what Kristen and the other speculators dismiss. More than I even knew.

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

Show us PROOF that Coppolino works for the government. Show us PROOF that Wagh is a "virologist." And i mean show us her acclaimed degrees! And show us PROOF that Coppolino and "the other speculators" dismiss graphene oxide.

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Emmanuel's avatar

Hi Jeffrey, do you have a link for Lee Meritt telegram channel? I've found https://t.me/DrLeeMerritt, but it's only videos and no such message. Thanks.

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

I was informed of this comment via email, but couldn't find it when i looked, so i responded to another comment you made. Here is the response.

I think you asked me for a link to Dr Merritt's Telegram channel, but i can't find your comment in that regard. I got her comment via a friend, i'm not even on Telegram. Sorry

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Emmanuel's avatar

Thanks for update. I was looking to fact check this comment.

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

By now, of course, it may be gone, as a lot of water has flowed under the bridge, including Eric Coppolino appearing yesterday on Regis Tremblay's show.

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Emmanuel's avatar

If one can't assume its own posts, one should not comment on internet.

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Jeffrey Strahl's avatar

I assume (:-) ) that by "assume its own posts" you mean "take responsibility" or "assume responsibility," correct?

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nonombre's avatar

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rxSX8FNACyXz/ This is her rebuttal in case no one has seen it yet.

My question is ; what's her motivation? She doesn't want to collaborate with anyone, her credentials are questionable and if you ask her for it she's defensive even with Regi. I'm not going to judge but she's doing it to herself of painting herself in a bad light in my opinion.

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Pseudonym's avatar

So, good to look into Fuellmich, but you've jumped on the bandwagon against Wagh without reviewing her results and you are working with discredited government lackey Eric Coppolino. I don't listen to people who want to immediately repress information. Maybe Fuellmich talked to her because she is a VIROLOGIST and the others are not.

See my writings people. This woman is unfortunately a hack, who is just speculating here.

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/independent-researchers-find-no-mrna

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/only-frauds-attack

I am covering more because there is far more evidence of graphene in the jabs. This is what Kristen and the other speculators dismiss. More than I even knew.

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Question Everything's avatar

Wagh hasn't provided "her results" to a single person and she's been asked plenty of times. So please explain how she is being discredited without "reviewing her results"? She is being discredited because she REFUSES TO LET ANYONE SEE HER PAPER. Because it doesn't exist.

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Paul Swanson's avatar

Kaufman is controlled opp too in my book. He finally blew his cover on my FB page a while back though I'd had my doubts from the start when he failed to mention Stefan Lanka for 6 momths.

His role isn't to mislead and I can't really fault anything he does say. Rather his role is simply to ensure that those waking up to the "virus" hoax do nothing while waiting for him to do what he never will. See also Dr. Cowan.

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Kristen Welch's avatar

You aren’t the first to say so 🤔

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Sol Luckman's avatar

🚂 Hi there, Kristen! Thanks so much for participating in the Terrain Train! I’m writing to encourage everyone involved to share this information on and off Substack as much as possible throughout the month of October. Tremendous gratitude for all that you're doing to raise awareness in the health truth movement! https://solluckman.substack.com/p/calling-all-those-questioning-germ

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Barbara Kiley's avatar

If Fuellmich was set up to connect with Wagh in a staged meet by this interviewer, it's clear Reiner was unaware of it, but he stepped clear of the "pile," would not introduce himself to Wagh directly, and simply suggested Wagh e-mail him. That's hardly a resounding endorsement.

Hint: Nice ambush. Nice aim. Nice try. But you missed.

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He's avatar

Why doesn't Dr Kaufman et al. redo the experiments to verify or discount Wagh's results? Or better Dr. Lanka who actually isolated a non-pathogenic 'virus' himself in plants.

Whatever, this is a big pissing contest that tears the opposition into shreds over, what, proof of a doctoral degree (haha! - If it just were funny). Maybe THAT's the conspiracy. Divided they fall. We're doing the deep state's work by pulling each others hair instead of directing our efforts together against our mutual enemy. This isn't good for humanity.

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Question Everything's avatar

That photo of Poornima...... who the hell is that??? It looks NOTHING like her lol where did Reiner even get that photo? Im unable to zoom in on my phone for some reason, but I genuinely don't think that's even her 😂 it doesn't even resemble the person who has been parading herself around on Zoom - not even the same color hair. Wtf. Im so confused 😂😂😂

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Barbara Kiley's avatar

I'm sure you're trying. But your comment is...sigh...stupid. The video was NOT Reiner's. Reiner was being interviewed. Wagh was being interviewed on the same show. The INTERVIEWER introduced Reiner to Wagh FOR THE FIRST TIME during the show! BTW, you can avoid looking stupid by actually watching videos you review.

As for Wagh's profile picture, you've GOT something there! The picture IS Wagh, however, for this video, Wagh is "in costume," dressed "down," looking quite the opposite of glamorous. She looks very "research scientist," don't you think?

YOU CAN SEE by her profile picture, Wagh is an actor who was coached in virology just enough to fool some of the people some of the time. Now let me see...who would recruit a Liberal Arts "crisis" actor to appear as a guest alongside Fuellmich just as he's launching Class Action Lawsuits that will totally bankrupt Big Pharma in damages. Humm. WHO WOULD PROFIT FROM THAT???

As for you, Ms. Moon Maiden, please review the video YOURSELF and see Fuellmich has NO IDEA who this woman, Wagh is, and he's being no more than polite. Please Stop casting shadows Oof doubt on our LEGAL RECOURSE against this GEONOCIDE. OK???

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Question Everything's avatar

Lol I know you're not talking to me like that honey 😂

Also Feullmich isn't doing anything with his so-called "lawsuits". He certainly isn't taking down Big Pharma. This is why I dont bother watching his videos. He is wasting everyone's time. He has already stated NUMEROUS TIMES that NO COURT or JUDGE will hear his case. So he is moving forward in the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.

Have fun with that.... but no one actually thinks he is doing any of the things you stated. Big Pharma certainly isn't threatened by him. No need to send in a crisis actor. And no need for you to make all these wild claims with zero supporting evidence.

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Pseudonym's avatar

So, good to look into Fuellmich, but you've jumped on the bandwagon against Wagh without reviewing her results and you are working with discredited government lackey Eric Coppolino. I don't listen to people who want to immediately repress information. Maybe Fuellmich talked to her because she is a VIROLOGIST and the others are not.

We are all well aware that Fuellmich has a corporate background and he obviously has been hostile to evidence of truth. We don't know if that event was real because Wagh said she was not talking to anyone. So did the event happen or not?

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/independent-researchers-find-no-mrna

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/only-frauds-attack

I am covering more because there is far more evidence of graphene hydroxide in the jabs. This is what Kristen and the other speculators dismiss. And they're doing it for a reason. Why else would they want to attack this woman's RESULTS? Not her, but her RESULTS?

The results are accurate, that I can tell you and I will show you.

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Kristen Welch's avatar

How many times do you need to comment the same redundant bullshit?? I already answered your presumptive attacks. Come up with some good investigative work of your own or get lost.

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