The Limited Hangout of No Virus INC. Part 1

How We Traded One Set of Grifting Gurus for Another

When the Plandemic forced me to wake up to the truth about virology and the existence of viruses, like many others, I found myself taking in the work of folks like Drs Sam and Mark Bailey, Andrew Kaufman, Tom Cowan, Mike Stone, and others. I was floored by what I discovered and subsequently began to speak out. I befriended a woman who went on to create a podcast in which I was a part of Season 1, and for my first choice of whom to interview, I invited on Mike Stone. We had what I considered a great chat about health truths and lies. I say this to give you an example of the relationship I initially had with some of these people, though I will relegate to discussing the details of my later interactions with Mike Stone in the follow-ups to this initial article, as there is a lot to cover there, and I want to focus on those more directly involved in the matter that I am about to discuss... with that being said, let’s move on…

Throughout this time period, I had also come across the work of Christine Massey and her work with using FOIA requests. I was inspired to do some of my own FOIA work as well, which she has featured on her website. I would like to say she and I became friends. Enough that she confided to me some pretty disturbing emails.

After some careful thought, I have decided that I am going to share those with everyone, along with some other relevant information on what I have now come to call No Virus INC. (thanks, Rod). It should be noted that within the last month or so, several of my colleagues have brought to my attention that an anonymous account has taken it upon themselves to release these emails already. While I appreciate the bold and courageous actions of this person for actually posting them, I do NOT condone some of the public doxxing that has resulted in these emails being released in an unredacted form. However, it is a bit hard for me to feel sorry for these people when their group has CLEARLY and PROVABLY doxxed several individuals throughout the course of the last couple of years, something that I will be discussing in the subsequent installments of this accounting. I also do not appreciate what seems to be the author making myself and others out to look like some sort of cowards for not releasing them sooner. Now, this could just be my personal paranoia, but I do not recall there being anyone else out there discussing these emails and deliberating whether or not the right thing to do was to release them. What I will say is this: There are damned good reasons for not publicly sharing them that low-IQ instigators and shills would not understand. I will also add that people like me do not go from sharing the works of these folks and being supportive of them, to having the reservations that I do now, without a damned good reason! You can trust that I will be doing everything in my power to call out evil when I see it and return treachery with treachery.

It is through their actions that they have created this mess.

I am just showing the rest of the world the things I have discovered along the way. I think it is important to make it known that I am not some far-off hater who is just trying to smear these people for the sake of disliking them. They can threaten me all they want, can try and dox me and slander me, can attempt to sue me. I don’t care. I know that I am doing nothing wrong here, and that many are worried about what I am going to discuss. I see Tom Cowan is already out attempting damage control on Twitter as I was making some of the final edits to this article. Let the record reflect for him and any other legal teams that try and come after me: I am merely presenting information. This is all information that is already available publicly or has already been shared among groups of people. I am under no NDA’s, I am not out grifting or promoting anything, I take money from no one, I don’t hide behind a pseudonym, and my entire family and my friends already know what I am about and what I discuss.

Finally, before we dig in, I think it is equally important to address the obvious: why didn’t I release the emails at the time? The majority of that is quite simple: I had respect for Christine Massey and didn’t want to stir up shit for her. I also thought she would have come out with it all on her own by now, especially given the recent “infighting” amongst much of the No Virus camp. This paints a much different picture of some of the No Virus heroes than what we have seen. These emails-in addition to a plethora of other disturbing behaviors from this circle of miscreants- should be all of the proof one needs to step away from their bullshit.

Because you see folks, I have come to see that this is not infighting, and many of us are nowhere near on the same side as these people. Infighting is a word that seems to be used to give off the idea that anyone who has anything to say unfavorably about these folks is nefarious or negative. However, I cannot help but grin with irony while I point out that it is no different from what they themselves are doing: calling out medical dishonesty, old or outdated info, and holding people accountable for the products they sell or money they are making from whom and why. Furthermore, there is no set of rules one must follow for calling out potential grifters and con-ops, etc. One does not need to be polished, poised, or even particularly likeable to do so. No set of approved language is required, there are no fucking credentials or requirements for noticing patterns and sniffing out lies and inconsistencies. People deserve to have all of the information about the people they are taking health advice from on the table and choose for themselves. We shall give our enemies no quarter.

This is what I have gathered. Take it and discern for yourself.

It all started with Christine sending me the following message:

Immediately I’m like ok, what the fuck?? What could this email have possibly been about? Anyways, I download the info, read it all, and my jaw dropped. Again, this was all made public on another Substack account, and rather than the exhausting task of uploading all of the redacted files here, I will relegate to posting the article HERE so that you can read it all for yourself…

Let’s take a moment and let a bit of that all sink in for a sec…

As Christine said in her initial email, it is all pretty self-explanatory. I find it appalling that Eric Coppolino, Jeffrey Strahl (who we all see agreed with Christine’s assessment of the situation), and Cindy Ragusa all gaslight Christine and make her seem crazy for questioning the entire trip and the motivation behind it all is a disgusting display of human behavior. But as you can see, Coppolino hides behind the excuse that his “position as a journalist gives [him] a culturally acceptable means of access; a reason for being anywhere”.

Let’s go over a few things. First and foremost, there is no denying that the potential for negative exposure here was fully known. It was made very clear that deciding to take this trip to rub elbows with men like William Kaye is not a good look, nor is it a good look to be taking questionable gold coins from the even further questionable man as payment. In a recent Twitter post, Tom Cowan had a lot to say, shortly after he blocked me. As I said, this appears to be damage control, as I have recently been alluding to releasing these emails.

As you can see, there are clear inconsistencies here. This was not a conference, but a private birthday party for a man with a questionable background, surely one that is quite contradictory with what Tom and the others put out. I have never said Tom accepted hush money, only that according to these emails, it appears that he has accepted some type of Panda coin. Perhaps what I am saying is being conflated with other things. Additionally, Tom may be against the fiat system, but those $1,200 shower heads, $50 bottles of seawater, and $3,000 biology courses likely aren’t being paid for in gold. Additionally, the emails also indicate that Cowan and the Baileys appeared via Zoom (I have never said in person, only Kaufman and Coppolino went in person, and they have already shared that publicly) and hosted a Q&A afterward where they were just oh so charming. It must be all of that experience Sam has from her stint on the TVNZ show The Check Up.

Whether or not Tom or his team or any of the other participants have heard from William Kaye or any of his associates since this event is irrelevant. Why in the fuck did they agree to do this to begin with? Christine seemed to be the only one thinking logically in this situation. None of them had a care in the world for how this would affect them or the other folks associated with them. Now they get to deal with that decision. Why agree to appear alongside people like Max Igan, Sasha Latypova, or Dr. Shiva?? Kinda odd, no? Why agree to participate in a party with someone like William Kaye, despite clear warnings about his reputation and his dealings? Is it not a bit concerning that these people misrepresented Christines motives, trivialized the Pussy Bar literature (quite an odd thing to take on the trip eh, Creeperino?) and basically made it sound like she was just a prude who was taking everything out of context? Honestly, there is a huge difference between being a prude and thinking shit like this is art→ WARNING: GRAPHIC PHOTO. Quite charming, eh? If you keep scrolling under that photo, you will also see Coppolino has been named on the RipOffReport website, in addition to further allegations of him being a bonafide creep. Like most people, I was disgusted when I found this all out. But really, I have come to find that I should NOT have been surprised. If anything, I have been handed a major lesson in proper vetting and discernment… something I hope to help others that read this to avoid having to learn the hard way.

I think one of the most upsetting things for me here, is that after it was all said and done, Christine still continues to defend the lot of these people, while accusing others like DPL and Jamie of sowing dissent and being bad actors. We since haven’t talked much, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she doesn’t downplay it all now the same way they did to her. I certainly hope not, and she may be upset at me for this, but she did tell me I could put this out there awhile back, I just never did until now. While we are on the subject, it is also clear that other public names in the health freedom movement were copied on these emails several times, including Alec Zeck. What does he think of all of this?

Yes, I wonder about all of them now, to be honest. If these emails aren’t enough, what about everything else that has happened along the way? What other relevant things have been learned about No Virus INC. in the last few years? I will be happy to address that in the follow-up to this article. For now, I leave my readers to ponder this information, as I don’t want to overwhelm everyone with a long, loquacious piece. Perhaps in the meantime some of you will want to ask these people some very pertinent questions. At any rate, I will see you guys real soon!

A special thanks for Round 1 of this exposure goes out to Omar Jordan of The Darkside Papers for his tireless research and contribution to exposing these frauds and for pulling the plug on Eric Coppolino and his disgusting perversions. O7

Part 2 can be found here:

The Limited Hangout of No Virus INC. Part 2